Foreign Insulators
by Marilyn Albers
Reprinted from "INSULATORS - Crown Jewels of the Wire", July 1984, page 3
SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED
In the February, 1984, issue of CROWN JEWELS magazine I showed a picture of a glass
insulator with Russian letters embossed on the skirt. The marking was not very
clear, but I challenged Don Fiene (Knoxville, Tennessee), who teaches the
Russian language, to make an educated guess as to its meaning. He rose to that
challenge, and here is his reply:
Dear Marilyn,
The third letter in your
transcription of the Russian embossing is wrong. The second A should be
(equivalent to L). This is not a word and has no particular meaning, but is
almost certainly the name of a small town. (I could not find it in the index to
a fairly complete atlas, so it must be small. It may not even exist anymore.)
The
first half of the name appears to be derived from the Russian word for calcium.
The town might have been a place where some calcium-based mineral was mined.
I'm
going to the USSR in June -- all the way to Irkvtsk (and Lake Baikal) on
Trans-Siberian R.R. I'll look for insulators, of course.
Best,
Don Fiene
Knoxville, TN
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The Russian letters I spoke of are shown here.
M.A.
Dear Marilyn,
I received my NIA patch and it looks pretty neat.
Also in the letter you were asking about the C.D. 799 BORGO "T-Bar"
that I sketched in my letter. Sorry, I do not have that insulator in my
collection. I draw a picture on most of my letters, and I knew that you
collected foreign insulators. I drew a picture of the C.D. 799 in the letter.
I
was thinking, all foreign insulators are getting new C.D. numbers, but the C.D.
121 AGEE didn't get one with the others (as far as I know). I think it should
get a new C.D.
Thanks and good collecting,
Scott Janz
Rudolf, WI
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Dear Scott,
Thank you for your letter! I can understand why you would have a question about
C.D. 121 AGEE from Australia not being assigned a new C.D. number along with
almost all the other foreign glass insulators, but this is not the only one. The
same thing is true in some other cases where foreign countries have made
insulators substantially identical to North American styles. Examples are C.D.'s
106, 113, 122, 128, 129, 154, 202 and 203. These numbers were maintained, even
though the markings were foreign, to avoid confusion! A C.D. 121 will always be
a C.D. 121, etc.
However, all other foreign styles are quite different from ours
in North America, so these were given their own new C.D. numbers.
I hope this
will answer your question. I really do like your sketches -- they're neat!
Sincerely,
Marilyn
Dear Marilyn,
My brother just called me from Australia, and he
has sent me about 4 purple and 1 or 2 green insulators. I assume they are AGEE
but will see once I get them.
David received his degree in Geology and was so
fascinated with Australian Geology and reefs that he took off for the "land
down under". David met a man who collects insulators and old bottles in
Northern Queensland and sent me his address. He may want to trade or sell some
insulators, so I thought I would check with you to see if there are any super
rare ones that I might be able to trade for. The only manufacturers that I am
aware of are AGEE, C.C.G., A.G.M. Do you feel that the 1982 Price Guide still
holds true for these?
Oh yes, David said he saw some insulators that were only
half purple. He climbed up several poles on some major highways.
I have been
here at 1st City Bank Dallas a little over one year now and am about to get out
of the training program and into lending. Sorry to have missed the Austin show.
Your Friend,
Frank Shiels
Dallas, TX
P.S. David will return in July. He will go
to New Zealand, Fiji, then Hawaii and home.
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Dear Frank,
It was really good to
hear from you! What a wonderful opportunity to acquire some Australian
insulators, with your brother David spending time over there and being willing
to carry back any that he can find for you.
I've checked over the list of the
glass insulators we know to have either been manufactured in Australia or used
there, and did come up with a few that you would be wise to tell David about.
Except for a few accidental omissions from the 1982 Price Guide, the values are
essentially the same today. The following are C.D. numbers and/or colors in
those C.D.'s that I consider to be rare:
C.D.
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Description
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Price
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121
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N.N., off clear or dark amber
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50.00
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154
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AGEE, R.D.P., greyish green
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125.00
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154
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AGEE, R.D.P., SCA
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250.00
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350
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L'ELECTRA VERRE,
green
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100.00
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390
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L E V, dark green
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65.00
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420
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(121.2) AGEE, aqua is the only
color
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25.00
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422
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(124.6) AGEE, emerald is very rare
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open?
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490
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(152.9) AGEE, stray
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100.00
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490
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same as above, but with 4 large evenly spaced drips, greyish to deep
SCA
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100.00
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530
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ISOREX /DC 1, green
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25.00
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590
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(25.7) A.G.M., straw is rare
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70.00
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There are also a few French designs that are rather large, double and triple
skirters of various sizes in green glass. These are desirable to the collector,
but rather hard to either ship safely or hand carry back to the States.
Embossings on these are usually EIV or L' ELECTRO VERRE. Also to be found are
shackle and spool type insulators marked A.G.M., and these are made of a straw
colored glass. The smaller sizes, 2-1/2" high, seem to be the hardest to
come by and should be worth about 35.00 to 50.00.
The insulators David told you
he saw that were only half purple would be a great addition to any collection!
Hope he can manage to detach one of these for you one way or another. I suggest
a good place to start looking would be at an insulator dumping ground rather
than to climb a pole! Or speak to the linemen who work these lines. According to
Laura Van Der Endt of Sidney, these fellows are glad to give you the insulators
if you happen to be there when they are being taken down.
It will be interesting
to hear what David found in New Zealand, Fiji and Hawaii. Please keep in tough,
and good luck!
Sincerely,
Marilyn
Mrs. Albers,
I am enclosing some sketches of a
white glazed porcelain insulator received from Germany last summer when my
son-in-law's parents returned to Germany to visit their relatives. This
insulator was on a bracket on the side of the relative's house in Sulzheim,
Germany.
I wasn't able to find this company listed in your book. I think the
middle word is SELB but the first letter was blurred, so I can't be sure.
The
insulator had been in use for over 50 years on a power line. Hope the sketches
are good enough for you to make out.
Thanks for the bother,
Gerald Miller
Jacksonville, MO
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Dear Gerald,
I know how proud you are of your insulator from
Germany, and I don't doubt a bit that it is quite old. This particular style is
quite common in Europe, especially in Germany, Switzerland, Luxembourg and
Denmark. Though your insulator is 1/4" shorter and 1/8" wider at the
base, it is still classified as U-1692, as found in the book WORLDWIDE PORCELAIN
INSULATORS (by Albers/Tod).
I'm sorry to say that I am not familiar with the
marking; but if the insulator is 50 years old, and you can make out the word
SELB, perhaps the marking belonged to some smaller company that was taken over
by Rosenthal, a large corporation, which is presently headquartered in Selb,
Bavaria, and manufactures not only insulators, but all types of fine dinner ware
and crystal. Since Rosenthal's insulator production is so large, I would be
surprised if any other company in Selb is still producing insulators side by
side, but of course anything is possible! I promise to let you know if any
information comes to light about the marking you sketched in your letter. I'm
sorry your snapshots will not be clear enough to reproduce in CROWN JEWELS, but
it was a big help to have your life size shadow drawing of the insulator, with
all its measurements! That identified the style immediately as U-1692. Thank you
for writing so all of the readers out there could know about your find!
Sincerely,
Marilyn
A drawing of U-1692, along with Gerald's
sketch of it, plus the marking is shown below. |
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