Questions Answered by N. R. Woodward
Author of The Glass Insulator in America and originator of C.D. #'s (Consolidated Design Numbers)
Reprinted from "INSULATORS - Crown Jewels of the Wire", December 1976, page 12
Terry W. Herron writes: Acquired a Hemingray D-513 in amber. Milholland book
doesn't list this insulator in amber. Has anyone else reported having one? Found
it in central Illinois.
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In reply to Terry W. Herron: Your amber D-513 is not too common, it would
seem. I don't have it listed in my files, either. However, in the early 1930's
the entire "D" series was advertised as being "Made in Brown and
Clear Glass". Probably all except the D-990 were made in amber, and there
are some still in service among porcelain that have not been noticed, no doubt!
If the D- 513 was in service in the area where you got it, a search of lines and
stockrooms of the utility company would probably locate others.
From Jim Woods, Galesburg, Illinois: Enclosed is photograph of two
insulators. The one on the left is a CD-162 in light green with a 3/8"
vertical bar on front and back. However, some of these are not truly a no name,
as Milholland's Price Guide indicates. This one, plus a couple of others I've
seen, has a very light outline of KCGW on one side of the skirt. I recently
traded for a pair of the insulators on the right. I know of four of them. They
were probably found somewhere in northwestern Illinois. They were purchased by
Mike Crawford of Aledo, Illinois, at a flea market. He has since traded all four
away. They are the same color as the CD-162 in the picture, with the same
3/8" vertical bar on front and back. The bar has been scribed in the mold
very similarly to the CD-162. Have you or any of your readers come across this
variety? Also, do you have any idea what CD number it might be?
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In reply to Jim Woods: The insulator you describe and illustrate as being
similar to a CD 162 does not have a separate number assigned, since the
insulator itself has never come my way. Someone sent a drawing of what must have
been the same item some time ago. Your remark that it has some similarities to
the ex-K.C.G.W. CD 162 is interesting. Since we have no information on any of
this group, it is entirely possible they are related. Unfortunately, this is
another of the areas where we just don't know anything for certain!
Eric Bloomquist, San Juan Capistrano, California, writes: I am 11 years old. I
have been collecting for about a year. I have a Brookfield insulator I cannot
find listed in any book. On the front Brookfield, on the back New York, on the
top 8. No drip points, inner skirt, aqua. In the top of the pinhole is a piece
of cork. It is 3-7/8 inches high, 3-1/16 wide, is similar to C.D. 162. How
common would this insulator be?
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In reply to Eric Bloomquist: Your insulator is probably a CD 162, and a
relatively common one. However, since the 8 on the crown is a shop number rather
than a style number, it appears on several different styles, so we have only
your guess that it is a CD 162. If it were another somewhat different style, it
could be a more scarce item. The cork in the pinhole is not a part of the
insulator, nor would it have been placed there in the process of regular use. It
was probably put there by someone after the insulator was removed from the line.
From David and Robin Doody, Wilmington, Delaware: We want to get more
information on some of our insulators. The most important one is a CD 203
HEMINGRAY-56. The glass is clear, but has the flashed on cherry red color. Would
this be rare or common?
Next is a CD 134 Brookfield with crown marking. All the ones listed in
Milholland's Third Revision have "W. BROOKFIELD", but this one has
"Wm BROOKFIELD". We have two of these, one with the Jan 25 1870 date,
the other without. Would you tell us if this is rare, or if others have been
reported?
Next, a CD 252 LYNCHBURG No 2 CABLE with a backward "N" in
"Made in U.S.A.". Color aqua. Have any of these been reported?
Last is a CD 102 BROOKFIELD NEW YORK with "BP embossed over Brookfield.
It is about 1/2" above Brookfield, not quite centered, but is a definite BP
and not a ghosting of BROOKFIELD. Following are the different embossings.
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In reply to David and Robin Doody: The CD 203 Hemingray-56 was colored red
only as a collector's item. None were ever made that way to be used on the
lines. Therefore, they are just as common as the person preparing them cares to
make them! There are plenty of clear ones that can be painted.
In the book "Insulators with Embossing Errors", Frances Terrill
illustrates on page 84 a Lynchburg No. 2 Cable with a Backward N in MADE IN
U.S.A.; but she also shows the N backward in LYNCHBURG. Now, do we have two
separate No..2 Cable molds with backward N's? If so, it wouldn't be very
surprising, since mold engraving at Lynchburg seems to have been done very
hurriedly and is crude.
On the Brookfield CD 102, even though the "BP seems very distinct, it
probably resulted when the hot glass settled into the mold and picked up a part
of the letters on the way down. It would not be unusual to pick up only a part
of a letter, and, in fact, these markings are often so distorted that the
characters are not very much like the original. It just depended on how hot the
glass was and how fast it fell into the mold.
In my files, I don't show a CD 134 Brookfield with the "Wm"
marking. There seem to be more of the CD 162 and 102 marked "Wm.
BROOKFIELD". But even there it isn't common. This particular marking has
been of interest to collectors from the first; but when those insulators were
made, it would have been of no importance. "W. BROOKFIELD" and
"Wm. BROOKFIELD" were the same person, and only the whim of a mold
engraver was involved in the difference, no doubt. In those days makers and
buyers were not as particular with details of insulator appearance as they later
became. The main thing was to produce them as fast and as economically as
possible to meet the tremendous demand.
While on the subject, here's a suggestion. These units with the
"Wm" marking have been of much interest to many. How about some of our
Brookfield specialists (and others) sending to Crown Jewels a detailed list
(showing complete embossing) of "Wm" units they have? Then maybe later
Dora will be kind enough to put together a consolidated list of the ones
reported. How about it?
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